Post by picklehead on Apr 29, 2018 14:22:59 GMT -5
I ran a little test awhile back using a 180 Barnes TTSX and a 180 psp in my 30-06. Both was hand loaded to about the same fps, give or take 15 or so. They was shot at a box full of stacked news paper, at 100 yards. To my surprise , both bullets stopped within 1/4" of each other. The Barnes was folded back just like the one I did in the water barrel a few years ago. It weighed 179.2. The psp was about 126 and mushroomed out very nice, with pieces of copper and lead everywhere.
The reason I'm writing this is because a man is burning my head up on what is the best bullet to use on his elk hunt this coming winter. He has a 308 and 30-06. He seems to think that he needs a bigger rifle and money is tight. I told him that a person could drop off on a caliber or two and just use a TTSX or just use a lighter TTSX and he didn't need a bigger rifle. I'm not getting in to this with him and know for a fact that I could get his 30-06 moving about 2975 with a 165 Barnes and it would be great. Why people think huge carts is needed for a damn ELK, I don't know. They need to hit what in the hell they are shooting at first.
My suggestion to him was. Go buy a good scope that has turrets and tracks true, bases and rings. Buy one box of the FACTORY Barnes 180 and 165 / 168 ( what ever one they make) and see what is most accurate in his rifle. Pick one and buy 6 boxes of them in the same lot if possible. Shoot the rifle and learn it and the scope like the back of your hand. Make a chart and put it on you gun. No need to be fooling with phones and stuff. Just look at the gun stock for moa adjustment. Then I told him to put the rifle on the back burner for now and there was more important things to get started on and he said DO WHAT. You better worry about getting in shape for the hunt and the rifle was the easy part.
I love it when people think they need a damn 50 BMG to hunt big game with. There is way more important things to think about and get ready for. The best shooting rifle in the world wont kill anything, if you cant get to it. Who needs a hole burner for a kill zone of 18 inches and I know damn well that the guide isn't going to let this man shoot over 300 yards to start with. This isn't like you see on TV and shooting Elk at 600 to 1100 yards. They are pro's or shooting a high dollar build with the man telling them how much to crank the dial up.
Back to the bullets. Ive had extremely good luck with Barnes TSX or TTSX, for accuracy. They are high but why cut cost on a hunting bullet. The damn round is the cheapest part of the entire deal. Most people hate a 243 for hunting and that's because they have lost an animal or a twig got them. Blue-Dot shoots a 85 TSX in his and I run the same in my 240. We don't go around chasing deer or wounding them. We run them suckers about 3500 FPS and spooky accurate. Would I shoot an Elk with it?? In a damn heartbeat and wouldn't think twice.
The reason I'm writing this is because a man is burning my head up on what is the best bullet to use on his elk hunt this coming winter. He has a 308 and 30-06. He seems to think that he needs a bigger rifle and money is tight. I told him that a person could drop off on a caliber or two and just use a TTSX or just use a lighter TTSX and he didn't need a bigger rifle. I'm not getting in to this with him and know for a fact that I could get his 30-06 moving about 2975 with a 165 Barnes and it would be great. Why people think huge carts is needed for a damn ELK, I don't know. They need to hit what in the hell they are shooting at first.
My suggestion to him was. Go buy a good scope that has turrets and tracks true, bases and rings. Buy one box of the FACTORY Barnes 180 and 165 / 168 ( what ever one they make) and see what is most accurate in his rifle. Pick one and buy 6 boxes of them in the same lot if possible. Shoot the rifle and learn it and the scope like the back of your hand. Make a chart and put it on you gun. No need to be fooling with phones and stuff. Just look at the gun stock for moa adjustment. Then I told him to put the rifle on the back burner for now and there was more important things to get started on and he said DO WHAT. You better worry about getting in shape for the hunt and the rifle was the easy part.
I love it when people think they need a damn 50 BMG to hunt big game with. There is way more important things to think about and get ready for. The best shooting rifle in the world wont kill anything, if you cant get to it. Who needs a hole burner for a kill zone of 18 inches and I know damn well that the guide isn't going to let this man shoot over 300 yards to start with. This isn't like you see on TV and shooting Elk at 600 to 1100 yards. They are pro's or shooting a high dollar build with the man telling them how much to crank the dial up.
Back to the bullets. Ive had extremely good luck with Barnes TSX or TTSX, for accuracy. They are high but why cut cost on a hunting bullet. The damn round is the cheapest part of the entire deal. Most people hate a 243 for hunting and that's because they have lost an animal or a twig got them. Blue-Dot shoots a 85 TSX in his and I run the same in my 240. We don't go around chasing deer or wounding them. We run them suckers about 3500 FPS and spooky accurate. Would I shoot an Elk with it?? In a damn heartbeat and wouldn't think twice.